Steady State Podcast

S6E13 - Coastal Rowing Pioneers: Ben Booth and Mark Oria

Dive into the world of coastal rowing and beach sprints with guests Ben Booth and Mark Oria, co-authors of the new book 'Ride the Waves: A Complete Guide to Coastal Rowing and Beach Sprint.'
Our conversation delves into the unique aspects and growing popularity of coastal rowing, training tips, and the differences from flat-water rowing. We also introduce youth rowers Cooper and Noah of Olympic Peninsula Rowing Association, highlighting their experiences and passion for the sport.
The conversation underscores the importance of love for rowing, proper training, and the expanding opportunities within coastal rowing, including upcoming championships, training camps, and the debut of beach sprints at the Olympics.
Sponsored by Breakwater Realty Group, the episode also promotes community engagement and support for rowing initiatives.
GUESTS:
Marc Oria - Head Coach, US National Beach Sprint team; co-founder of Next Level Racing
Ben Booth - Co-Founder, Next Level Racing; boat designer at Next Boat Works
Noah Oberly and Cooper Disque - Olympic Peninsula Rowing Association members
 
FIND OUT MORERide the Waves: A Complete Guide to Coastal Rowing & Beach Sprint
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode intro01:34 - Hosts Tara and Rachel talk candidly about the topic05:50 - Welcome guests and Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10: 07:00 - The Huddle: Ben then Marc09:19 - Growth of coastal and beach sprint in the past 5 years 12:43 - New Book! Ride the Waves15:47 - Extreme conditions + knowledge + skills = success18:18 - camps19:29 - Welcome Cooper and Noah20:42 - Rowing Origin Stories: Cooper then Noah22:33 - The Hot Seat Q&A24:56 - The kids ask the experts32:37 - Reframing the flat water rowing experience and benefits of adding beach sprints and coastal to flat water programs34:48 - What’s on Noah and Cooper’s racing schedule this Summer?35:54 - How to bring coastal to your club. Tips and cautionary tales.37:33 - On the schedule: youth nationals, national team trials, ID camps, Youth Olympics, 2028 Olympics in LA.40:19 - Steady State Network news and notes
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S6E12 - A Long Talk's Proven Formula: Information + Empathy = Action

A Long Talk About the Uncomfortable Truth was developed by two black fathers in the wake of George Floyd’s murder in May 2020, during a moment of national reckoning. There was a collective national and international outcry, but there was also a gap between intention and action. People wanted to help but didn’t know where to start. In light of the Black Lives Matter movement, USRowing came to terms with its own limitations when it came to talking about – and taking action around – diversity, equity, and inclusion.
A Long Talk gives space to have the conversations that people are afraid to have. They lead activation experiences designed to empower participants with knowledge and skills to interrupt problematic thinking and behaviors.
Kamal Carter and Kyle Williams, founders of A Long Talk, are not rowers, but they are proud to be a USRowing Unity Partner, and working with rowing programs across the country.
GUESTS:Kamal Carter, PresidentKyle Williams, Chief Empowerment Officer
FIND OUT MOREwww.alongtalk.comFB, IG & X: @alongtalk2020YouTube: @Alongtalk
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode intro01:50 - Hosts Tara and Rachel talk candidly about policies that led to segregation, and outdated ideas that persist04:10 - Welcome guests and week on a scale of 1-10 09:15 - The Hot Seat Q&A17:53 - Kyle and Kamal met in college at Hampton University20:02 - A Long Talk origin story began in response to a 2020 incident with an NCAA basketball coach29:45 - Connecting with USRowing started with Matt Logue at TRRA32:04 -  A willingness to learn and progress over perfection36:10 - Success looks like…40:56 - Information plus empathy equals action41:58 - A Long Talk’s CPR ( clarify, probe and redirect) training49:44 - How white women can impact change52:56 - Are you ready to take your first steps towards  interrupting ignorance?54:50 - Steady State Network news and notes
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S6E11 - XULA Rowing: Confident to be a Leader Among HBCUs

At the heart of New Orleans, at Xavier University of Louisiana, two coaches decided to challenge tradition—by bringing an elite sport to an unexpected place and building something that had never existed before: the first co-ed rowing program at a Historically Black College and University. Xavier University Rowing Club is a trailblazing force in collegiate sports, championing diversity and unity on Bayou St. John.
Coaches Beth Manley and Chloé Jobin, and rower Victoria Duffey, are at the heart of the grassroots effort fueled by the belief that sports have the power to change minds and communities. Every stroke they take on the water is a step towards breaking barriers and building a more inclusive future for rowing.
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode intro
02:05 - Co-Hosts Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan banter
06:14 - The Huddle: A quick get to know guests Beth Manley, Victoria Duffey, and Chloé Jobin
07:41 - Welcome guests and Rowing week on a scale of 1-10: a mixed bag of rain, gators, and flip tests
08:43 - The Hot Seat Q&A
11:18 - For Victoria, the importance of attending an HBCU
14:30 - XULA’s location in New Orleans
15:04 - What sparked the idea of starting a rowing program at XU?
16:55 - No blueprint for starting a rowing club at XULA
19:27 - Partnership with New Orleans Rowing Club
22:07- Victoria: from Crossfit to XULA Rowing Club walk-on and beyond
25:50 - Building club culture of accountability, leadership, and building each other up
30:24 - Training, growth, and plans
33:48 -  About being the first, motivation and the legacy of XULA. Contextualize what you're doing and the space that you're making for other people 
40:23 - Steady State Network news and notes
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S6E10 - Matriarchs of Whitemarsh: Celebrating 20 Years of Leadership and Legacy

As part of our semi-regular club spotlight series, we head to Conshohoken, Pennsylvania to get to know Whitemarsh Boat Club. Celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2025, we check in with Linda Chisholm and Jane Voss – two of the club's Founding Mothers – about the early days of getting the club off the ground in 2005, the growth it’s seen in the years since, and what makes this multi-generational club a stand-out.
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Hosts Tara and Rachel banter about pipe dreams and logistics of starting a club07:02 - Rowing week on a scale of 1-10: planning for a 10 next week!08:10 - The Huddle: A quick get to know you with Linda and Jane11:04 - The Hot Seat Q&A13:53 - Linda and Jane's rowing origin stories: Rowing moms unite!18:17 - Why start a club in Conshohocken? Why not join a club on Boathouse Row?21:54 - Early days of borrowed boats and fund raising22:28 - About Whitemarsh Boat Club and its place on the Schuylkill River25:56 - Development of Whitemarsh Boat Club programs30:47 - Not so secret secrets to building club culture36:13 - 20 years of Whitemarsh Boat Club39:07 - Linda and Jane's advice for starting a club42:32 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Jane Voss, Linda Chisolm, and Whitemarsh Boat Club, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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S6E9: The Ocean is Calling Oar the Rainbow

On June 7, 2025, Oar the Rainbow will be one of just five teams losing sight of shore for an unsupported, human-powered, 2800-mile row from Monterey, CA to Kauai, HI. The team, – including the first out transgender person to row across the Pacific – are about two years into their planning and training. 
Members Taylan Stulting, Julie Warren, and Courtney Farber have inclusion, joy, and kindness at the heart of the team, with the belief that representation in sports matters, while pushing the limits of endurance.
We talk about the love of rowing, having something to prove, what to expect out there, and fundraising for Athlete Ally and Doctors Without Borders. Stick around for a bonus Q&A with ocean rower, author, and adventurer Jordan Hanssen.
 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Podcast Series Introduction01:45 - Episode Intro: Rachel and Tara’s take on taking on an ocean08:57 - The Huddle: A quick get to know you 10:39 - Rowing week on a scale of 1-1011:26 - The Hot Seat Q&A13:58 - Rowing origin stories: For Courtney the stars aligned in her 30s; Julie got handed a flier as a college freshman; Taylan sought out a college LTR program19:20 - Most recent training/practical session together21:09 - The dream of rowing an ocean26:05 - How Oar the Rainbow came to be28:40 - Commitment and family sacrifices30:30 - About the World’s Toughest Row31:20 - The boat named Emma32:30 - Training33:37 - Extrapolating personal skills to make the teamwork work38:03 - The “why” 42:42 - Charities and support44:14 - Intro to Q&A with ocean rower, author, and adventurer Jordan Hanssen44:55 -  What is so exciting about rowing on the ocean? 45:56 -  What piece of equipment or personal gear do you wish that you had with you? 48:25 -  How did you feel hitting the halfway point and in the days following that milestone? 49:44 -  What was the transition back to life on land like for you? 51:38 -  How to plan for something unexpected?53:10 -  Lovely nuggets56:10 - Steady State Network news and notes
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S6E8 - On Course: Rowing STEM with Coach Neil Bergenroth

Neil Bergenroth is an educator and rowing coach whose work with kids has developed successful rowers and students for nearly 40 years in his adopted hometown of Tulsa, Oklahoma and across the country. Neil’s Rowing STEM curriculum introduces kids to concepts like data analysis, graphing, physiology, precision, and accuracy. And as an online rowing coach, Neil’s helping rowers of all ages dial in their rowing technique, and reach new personal milestones.
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Podcast Series Introduction01:17 - Episode intro: Hosts Rachel and Tara banter about their personal experiences learning about data from the Concept2 monitor05:27 - Neils's rowing week on a scale of 1-10: 9 (or 10) because a client set a U.S. record on the slides05:52 - The Huddle: A quick get-to-know Neil's rowing background07:41 - The Hot Seat Q&A11:07 - Neil's rowing origin story began at Kingston Grammar School in London14:00 - Making the decision to attend Boston University14:41 - When your new wife is from Tulsa ... you move across the Pond and volunteer at Tulsa Youth Rowing Association18:54 - Aging, making time for family, stepping away from the launch, and deciding what to do next20:20 - A vision for what online coaching could be: apps22:37 -  Developing the Rowing STEM curriculum and app, and bringing it into the classroom25:52 - Why rowing is a great way to teach STEM concepts28:41 - Using the Concept2 RowErg for STEM experiments32:17 - The future of the Rowing STEM curriculum depends on others stepping up34:20 - Neil describes the perfect stroke 42:40 - Steady State Network news and notes
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S6E7 - Rowing's Cultural Connection for Pacific Islander Youth

At Peninsula Community Rowing Club, Tongan American coach Anthony Heimuli is making an impact in his San Francisco-area rowing community, providing young athletes a deeper understanding of community and self. And with his eyes set firmly on the 2026 Youth Olympics and 2028 Olympic Games, Anthony is working to establish the Pacific Islander Rowing Association to develop high-performance athletes for international competition. 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Intro2:16 - Rowing week: On a scale of 1-10, Anthony's was a 9 while prepping two youth for New Zealand Coastal Championships02:54 - The Huddle: A quick get to know Anthony03:40 - The Hot Seat Q&A05:22 - Rowing origin story: A very short-lived football career led to a rowing team tryout
07:55 - Being recruited to – and divorced by – the University of Washington
12:48 - After a 10 year rowing hiatus, coaching middle schoolers was “insane”
17:57 - The Pacific Islander community in San Francisco
20:54 - Working with community partners to introduce Pacific Islander youth to rowing
28:22 - Coaching philosophy: "It's just rowing. Let's have fun!"
31:26 - Working to make the Peninsula Community Rowing Club a recognized member of the Tonga Rowing Association
37:47 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Anthony, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S6E6 - GB Olympian Caragh McMurtry: Advocate for Neurodiverse Athletes

Olympian Caragh McMurtry gives an unflinching look at living and rowing with a misdiagnosis of bipolar disorder, a follow-on diagnosis of autism, and struggling to fit the standard mold in the GB system. Now retired from rowing and at the helm of Neurodiverse Sport, Caragh champions other neurodiverse athletes, and aims to reshape sports environments so neurodivergent individuals can thrive without needing to mask or compromise their unique needs
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Intro01:46 - Rowing week on a sale of 1-1002:25 - The Huddle: A quick get to know you 04:23 - The Hot Seat Q&A07:52 - Rowing origin story: an outlet for loads of energy and “messing around”12:13 - A square peg in the GB system, a misdiagnosis of bipolar disorder, the negative impacts of medications, autism diagnosis and a new communication plan20:18 - Separating negative team experiences from the restorative aspect of rowing23:08 - learning style: quiet coaching, no word salads27:43 - Neurodiverse Sport: reducing stigma, and making universally designed coaching the norm32:20 -  when you're asking for help, support, accommodations, it needs to be a two way conversation34:30 - Defining neurodiversity37:26 - incorporating neurodiversity training into coaching certs39:01 - the state of the neurodiversity conversation in sport42:45 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Caragh, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor and donor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S6E5 - Cool Rowings: A Dynamic Concoction

From primary school kids to octogenarians, Cool Rowings is introducing diverse populations to rowing in and around London. Founder Weininger Irwin – competitive and confident from a young age – has a community first approach, prioritizing fun and social interaction. And we hear from one of his rowers, 86-year-old Hazel Parkins, who took up indoor rowing after the death of her husband and says she can't do with out it these days. This is an episode about building your own path and embracing lifelong functional fitness.
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QUICK LOOK
PART 1: Weininger Irwin
00:00 - Episode Intro 04:06 - The Huddle: A quick get to know you 05:20 - The Hot Seat Q&A06:45 - Growing up a runner07:58 - Rowing origin story: from Gladiator tryout, to Ford Motor Co. gym erg, and a Concept2 2k training plan13:16 - Established Cool Rowings  to introduce primary school kids and diverse populations to rowing16:26 - Ageless Teenagers and Weininger's philosophy for coaching seniors21:23 - Being a beacon for the community
 
PART 2: Hazel Parkins
24:03 - Meet Hazel Parkins, 80+ 2025 BRIC Gold Medalist24:47 - On a scale of 1-10, Hazel's rowing week was a 926:15 - An introduction to the erg during COVID29:46 - A "lovely" experience at BRIC and Hazel's approach to training and racing33:12 - The importance of support from family and community
37:08 - Hosts Rachel and Tara post-interview banter40:54 - Steady State Network news and notes
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S6E4: Coach Cassandra Cunningham on Curiosity, Consistency and Growth

Cassandra Cunningham, founder of P3 Physical Education, and coach with Endeavor Racing Alliance, has lived by the philosophy of "prior proper planning." So she knew it had to be the driving force behind her coaching, too. From walk-on at Sacramento State University, to National Team rower, to coach of all levels, Cassandra believes in the power of curiosity to drive success. Our wide ranging conversation for rowers and coaches, touches on the power of sport, positive mindset, being present, trusting the process, and blending with your teammates.
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QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro 02:43 - The Huddle03:32 - The Hot Seat Q&A06:19 - Rowing origin story: To keep her life from unravelling, Cassandra walked on at Sacramento State09:23 - Navigating her way to success in college came by way of being curious12:14 - Finding and needing sport17:00 - Cassandra was inspired to become a coach by her dad who was a coach, and her mom who installed her with common sense19:04 - Strengths and struggle buses of new coaches, and setting the tone for the team23:14 - Coaching, connecting with, and being present for the whole athlete26:49 - Founding P3PE to bring her philosophy of prior proper planning through communication, organization, and professionalism29:33 - The perfect stroke doesn’t exist30:54 - Trusting the process: consistency, growth, awareness33:22 - Cultivating a positive mindset starts with self-care, showing up, and reading the room37:34 - Endeavor Racing Alliance: creating good humans and less chaos, thinking outside the box to “race up”41:11 - From camp to club and back: sharing ideas, curiosity, and blending46:18 - Evolution of positive planning mindset49:04 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Cassandra, and get links to the people, clubs, events, mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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S6E3: Lenny O'Donnell is Preserving Rowing History

Holding an old canister in his hands, rower and documentary film producer Lenny O’Donnell’s heart skipped a beat when he read the hand-written note “Berlin 1936” on an old piece of athletic tape stuck to its lid. After years in storage, unseen for several decades, Lenny was entrusted to restore and digitize it, along with boxes full of other historic photos, film, and ephemera documenting the University of Washington crew in the early 20th century. To share it all, he created RowingArchives.org and wonders who the next generation of historians will be to carry on the work. 
QUICK LOOK00:00 - Intro 02:40 - The Huddle03:20 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10: 7 because of time spent with the Ancient Mariners05:25 - Tara and Lenny crossed paths in Seattle years ago at Pocock Foundation07:21 - The Hot Seat Q&A09:50 - Rowing origin story: Title IX encroached on wrestling, so he walked on to the UW crew11:45 - After 25 years off the water: carbon fiber oars!13:05 - Erging + walking the dog = keeping healthy13:50 - A life in teaching made for an easy transition to coaching18:35 - Rowing Archives began with research into the 1958 UW crew - the first American athletes to compete in the Soviet Union24:13 - Working towards a future national rowing museum26:57 - Holy Grail of archival rowing footage28:31 - Lucy Pocock competed in coxed singles29:34 - T & R post-interview banter worth keeping.30:45 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Lenny, and get links to the people, clubs, events, and organizations mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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S6E2: Blind Sculler Kate Lindgren Can See What's Possible

When Kate Lindgren and award-winning coach Peter Forrest met at Peterborough City Rowing Club, it came with more than a few firsts for these two Brits. While they were both self-proclaimed “late onset rowers" – learning to row later in life – neither could have expected the partnership and bond they’ve forged.
Inspired by Kate, whose blindness doesn’t even come close to impeding her rowing in a single, together they are the brains and brawn behind Row the Rhythm, a ground-breaking initiative designed specifically for visually impaired rowers across England.
 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro 01:55 - The Huddle04:35 - Rowing Week: 1-1005:45 - A brief history of PCRC’s purpose-built rowing lake07:45 - The Hot Seat Q&A09:16 - Rowing origin stories: Pete needed a knee-friendly sport; walking and cycling no longer “cut the mustard” for Kate13:15 - Kate’s retinitis pigmentosa and learning to feel the stroke 17:00 - Mind mapping your stroke22:35 - Developing the logistics, trust, and respect for a successful blind rower/coach partnership 27:17 - Pete’s philosophy: coach the rower in front of you30:43 - Row the Rhythm, with support from Love Rowing, is bringing rowing to visually impaired athletes across England39:41 - Pete:  British Rowing Inclusive Coach of the Year 2024 40:48 - Advice to clubs on integrating visually impaired athletes 43:36 - Describing the perfect stroke44:24 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Kate and Pete, and get links to the people, clubs, and organizations mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S6E1 - Behind the Lens: Row2k Founder Ed Hewitt

In 1997, just 36% of adults went online. Websites from this era were known as "Web 1.0." Google didn’t exist yet. And a guy with information to share about Eastern Sprints decided to cobble together some HTML and get the word out. And so, row2k.com was born.
Twenty seven years later, founder and owner Ed Hewitt joins us to talk about how his own rowing journey – from Atlantic CIty High School, to Columbia University rower and coach, to 7x National Team member – influenced the development and success of Row2k, one of the most visited rowing-related websites in the world.
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QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro 01:45 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1 to 1002:10 - The Huddle03:13 - The Hot Seat Q&A09:05 - Rowing origin story: Football player convinced by “clowns” to row13:01 - Walking on at Columbia14:27 - Being young and driven: developing the new women’s program at Columbia in the 1980s21:31 - Launching Row2k with HTML and chutzpah  24:33 - Row2k as archive, scrapbook, news source; and the people behind the scenes28:34 - On being a Row2k photographer30:30 - Row2k galleries mold rowers perceptions of themselves, their crews34:06- Brutal Row2k message boards of the 1990s 35:54 - The necessity of watermarks on photos (aka stop stealing from Row2k)38:10 - Just how many shots do Row2k photographers take at a regatta?39:20 - Surviving the dot.com bubble40:50 - Supporting, engaging with, and being a part of the rowing community44:22 - Steady State Network news and notes
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To see photos of Ed, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E25: No Water? No Problem. Rower and Trainer Cassi Niemann Thrives in Albuquerque

Like many athletes sidelined by injury, Cassi Niemann turned to rowing to see what her body could handle. After walking on as a freshman, she found strength in the community her Georgia Tech crew provided.
Cassi never could have known then that her trajectory was about to drastically change. Nearly 30 years later, Cassi’s resume is packed with coaching experience and training certs. She's the lead UCanRow2 Master Rowing Instructor with Concept2. She’s also a competitive power lifter and the owner of CASstrong, where she blends rowing with her expertise as a strength coach.
Cassi not only helps indoor rowers improve their skills and confidence on the machine, but also trains other coaches to effectively integrate rowing into a variety of fitness settings. 
We got to talk to Cassi about indoor rowing, lifting, and creating sustainable training habits for health, confidence, and community. 
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QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro 01:38 - Rowing Week: 1-1002:42 - The Huddle03:20 - The Hot Seat Q&A04:53 - Rowing origin story: walking on at Georgia Tech brought community and a focus for success as a student athlete09:45 - First coaching gig: Georgia Tech novices12:30 - Developing a coaching style, influences16:13 - Transition from collegiate rowing to masters rowing18:18 - Bootcamps, powerlifting, and CrossFit21:37 - UCanRow2 training verification, coaching other coaches, and talking about indoor rowing without talking about rowing on the water29:18 - Setting yourself up for winter fitness success with: BAM (bare ass minimum), RAD (really awesome day), auto-regulation33:58 - Barbell Medicine rowing + strength training program39:29 - Cassi’s “original domino piece” - the thing that's gonna catapult someone into making more changes with just one change42:15 - Outro
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To see photos of Cassi, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E24: Asheville's Rebel Rowing Set to Make a Comeback

In 2024, Rebel Strength and Rowing was named to Entrepreneur magazine’s list of the top 150 independently owned and operated small businesses in the United States. Then in late September – like hundreds of other businesses in Asheville, NC – it was inundated by the flood waters of Hurricane Helene.
In this episode, we talk with owner Adam Smith, and member Jason Mogen, about founding a small business, growing meaningful community, and sustaining it all through incredibly challenging times.
EPISODE QUICK LOOK00:00 - Intro 02:00 - The Huddle04:23 - The Hot Seat Q&A12:15 - Rowing Week: 1-1014:32 - Brain surgery, a new perspective on life, and founding Rebel Row20:03 - Growing the Rebel community and the non-sales pitch pitch19:55 - Processing the reality of Hurricane Helene33:45 - Post-hurricane recovery 39:21 - Training non-rowers to use the erg as a conditioning tool42:56 - Looking forward to getting back to Rebel Row45:20 - How you can help small businesses in Asheville
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To see photos of Adam and Jason, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, iCrew, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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Check out more Steady State Network here: 
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Connect with Tara at @CmonBarber, and Rachel at @RowSource

S5E23: Nermine Khenefar - COVID, Kilimanjaro, and Crew

Ever dreamed of rowing on the Nile? Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro? Competing in the World Rowing Indoor Championship?
Egyptian Nermine Khenefar found rowing in her 40s when, winded on her ascent of Mt. Kilimanjaro, friend and explorer Omar Samra suggested she take up the sport to increase her aerobic capacity. After just a few years, Nermine is an avid masters rower and indoor rowing competitor who is seeking to row everywhere she travels and welcome visitors to row with her on the Nile in Cairo.
EPISODE QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode intro01:38 - Nermine's rowing origin story03:35 - Rowing Week 1-10: training for the 2025 World Rowing Indoor Championships05:39 - The Hot Seat Q&A09:24 - Competitive horse riding came to end with a knee injury11:00 - Rowing as spiritual and sacred time13:36 - Rowing provided renewed body confidence14:31 - Climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro on her 40th birthday17:23 - Challenges of racing when there are so few masters women rowing in Cairo22:53 - Flat water rowing on the River Nile, coastal rowing on the Red Sea27:53 - Rowing bucket list
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To see photos of Nermine, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E22: Fusing Innovation and Tradition at the Head of the Charles

Head of the Charles Regatta in Boston, Mass. is one of the jewels in the rowing crown. In our annual homage to this mega rowing event, we meet the leadership that makes it happen – new HOCR Executive Director Tori Stevens, and Director of Racing Brendan Mulvey.
We find out their personal stories of involvement in sport, and what about this regatta attracts 12,000 athletes and a few hundred thousand spectators each year to the waters and banks of the Charles River.
EPISODE QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro
1:26 - Rachel and Tara talk personal HOCR histories
4:40 - Welcome to Tori Stevens and Brendan Mulvey
5:40 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1 to 1005:57 - The Hot Seat Q&A
07:02 - Brendan's rowing origin story
08:05 - Tori’s life has always been infused with sport, including spectating HOCR as a college student
10:45 - HOCR is about racing, as well as community, tradition, reunion, and celebration
12:25 - What makes HOCR so unique?
14:50 - The importance of volunteers, from local regattas to HOCR’s 2000+ volunteer crew
19:45 - Tori’s onboaring as HOCR Executive Director, and continuing Fred Schoch’s legacy of balancing innovation, growth, and tradition
23:06 - Finding a new audience for HOCR using storytelling, the media, and technology to showcase rowing and help increase engagement and understanding for spectators
27:57 - Survivor Rowing Network and the exhibition Survivor Row
28:50 - Creating an inclusive envionment
30:38 - What’s not to be missed at HOCR: everything *else* to do at HOCR 
33:52 - Getting Boston, and spectators, prepared for race weekend
35:54 - Brendan’s Race Director tip for all crews
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To see photos, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E21: A Growing Network of Survivors Find Renewal on the Water

Kick off Breast Cancer Awareness Month with Beth Kohl, the President of Rowing Cares and Founder and Executive Director of Survivor Rowing Network; and rower, survivor and Pink Ribbon Row Seattle organizer Angie Gabel.
The Survivor Rowing Network is on a mission to create more opportunities for cancer survivors to row. Since launching in 2023, SRN has grown to 27 survivor rowing programs. This year, for the first time ever, the Head of the Charles regatta will host a Survivor Rowing Network event, featuring 11 women’s 8s, all of them breast cancer survivors!
EPISODE QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Intro01:40 - The Huddle03:20 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1 to 1006:38 - The Hot Seat Q&A08:32 - Beth’s height caught the attention of the Smith College rowing coach11:57 - Beth’s tall children followed in her rowing footsteps13:46 - Angie found rowing after a divorce and move to Austin, TX18:58 - Angie’s rowing community got her through breast cancer treatment and recovery19:59 - Angie’s motivation to create Pulling for Pink, and involvement with Row for the Cure, Pink Ribbon Row21:57 - Angie’s return to rowing at Head of the Charles24:46 - Pink Robbin Row by the numbers25:44 - How Survivor Rowing Network learned lessons from its predecessors, and became a successful grant-making organization30:15 - First-ever Survivor Row event at Head of the Charles32:32 - Survivor rows, survivor programs, and creating community34:54 - Outro
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To see photos of the Beth and Angie, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E20: Finding a Deeper Connection to the Water with Coastal Rowing

Once upon a time, way back in 2020, we thought of rowing in a very particular way: flat water, racing shells, and seeking the perfect stroke. As coastal rowing and beach sprints has gained some traction here in the U.S., we’ve broadened our understanding and definition of rowing to bring these disciplines into the conversation, too. 
On balance, coastal has probably tipped the scales of our conversation in 2024 as we trained for and participated in Race Around the Rock a coastal circumnavigation of Salt Spring Island in British Columbia. If you’re a tried and true flat water rower, thanks for exploring these new ideas about rowing right along with us!
In case you missed it, the 2024 World Rowing Beach Sprint Finals were held September 13-15 in Genoa, Italy and Team USA brought home 3 Gold and 1 Silver medal.
Joining us to talk about the rise of coastal rowing and beach sprints are Team USA head coach Marc Oria, and rower Pearl Outlaw, a member of the first ever pararowing women’s quad.
QUICK LOOK
02:10 - The Huddle03:15 - Welcome 05:18 - Rowing Week 1-1007:32 - The Hot Seat Q&A15:54 - A degenerative eye disease impacted Pearl’s sight; learning to row offered her an opportunity to participate in a sport 19:47 - Marc learned to row at age 12 in Spain, and ate humble pie at his first regatta22:13 - Marc’s coaching career began with making sure little kids had fun, and he maintains that philosophy today28:11 - A brief introduction to coastal endurance and beach sprints31:43 - Pearl’s transition from flat water national team to coastal rowing33:45 - Adaptive technology for vision impaired athletes38:58 - Letting go of perfection and embracing chaos40:49 - Next Level Rowing’s role in developing coastal and beach sprint athletes44:33 - The first pararowing women’s quad
45:54 - Opportunities to get involved in coastal are sparse, but growing, in the U.S.47:29 - Pearl’s pursuit of being a dual sport athlete, with success in nordic skiing and biathlon52:15 - Pearl and Marc’s  training, racing, and coaching goals for 202554:19 - Getting the ball rolling for Youth Olympic Games 2026, and LA Olympics 202857:43 - Outro
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To see photos of the Marc and Pearl, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E19: Allies with Oars Goes Coastal at Race Around The Rock

After six months of training, Steady State Network’s Allies with Oars’ first coastal – and first international – race is a wrap! Two Allies With Oars mixed 4x+ crews spent the better part of Aug. 25, 2024 circumnavigating an 88k course around Salt Spring Island in British Columbia, for Race Around the Rock, hosted by Salt Spring Island Rowing Club. We got a little bit of everything: flat water, rolling waves, eddies, boat wakes, seals, massive jellyfish, excitement at the start line, confidence, pain cave suffering, and elation at the finish line.
Post-race, and with beverages in hand, the team sat down together to relive some highlights (and low lights) and share what made the experience so meaningful.
Thanks to all our family and friends for volunteering to lend a hand throughout race weekend. We couldn’t have made it around this rock without you.
Thanks to our race sponsors: JL Racing, Live2Row Studios, and Racing Hands.
 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Lead-In and Welcome
02:02 - Six months of training with Live2Row Studios
05:20 - Favorite part of the race
08:53 - Challenges of the race
14:45 - Imposter syndrome and getting hooked
16:36 - Race day success was only possible with a lot of help from teammates, friends, and family
20:55 - Race day firsts
22:25 - About the Allies with Oars initiative
26:25 - ”Thank yous”
28:46 - What’s up next for Allies?
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To see photos of the Allies with Oars crew, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E18: Club Spotlight - Salt Spring Island Rowing Club

As part of our semi-regular club spotlight series, we cross the northern border into British Columbia, Canada to learn more about Salt Spring Island Rowing Club. Steady State Network's own Allies with Oars crews were just on the island for the Club's 88k coastal rowing regatta – Race Around the Rock. 
Meet Salt Spring Island Rowing Club head coach Stacey Mitchell, RAR race director Zoe Clark, and new(ish) master's sculler Michael Strumberger. Together they embody the enthusiasm, passion, and motivation necessary to build and sustain this small town rowing club.
 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Lead-In and Welcome
01:55 - The Huddle
03:37 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-10
06:40 - The Hot Seat Q&A
11:22 - Stacy’s LTR story started with a swimming injury
14:24 - Michael’s “very casual relationship with fitness” shifted when he decided to try the gym erg
17:18 - Zoe’s rowing journey started with gnarly hands from hours on the monkey bars
20:02 - Why keep coming back to rowing?
26:59 - Salt Spring Rowing Club is small and growing!
32:22 - SSI members
34:08 - A rowing morning on St. Mary’s Lake starts with a quiet trip down a dirt road
37:20 - Race Around the Rock
49:50 - SSN's Allies with Oars: ruffling feathers to push the boundary of “mixed” lineups
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To see photos of Stacy, Zoe, and Michael, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
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S5E17: Julien Bahain’s Lifetime of Seeking Perfect Moments

Inspired by his parents from an early age to work hard, Julien Bahain became a 3-time Olympian and an Olympic medalist. He’s been involved with rowing for 25 years, taking on multiple disciplines including flat water, coastal, and ocean rowing.
Over the years, his involvement in the sport has grown too, from organizing World Rowing Championships and helping establish OARCA, to founding West Coast Rowing Adventures with his wife Katie. Together their goal is to grow coastal rowing and share the beauty of British Columbia. 
QUICK LOOK
00:11 - Pre-Show Banter01:08 - Welcome01:55 - Episode Lead-In 05:08 - The Huddle06:38 - Rowing Week on a scale of 1-1009:10 - The Hot Seat Q&A13:19 - Julien’s rowing origin story15:52 - “Work hard, do it well, and do your best” was instilled from a young age by his parents18:48 - Coastal rowing in Julien’s life from LTR to organizing World Rowing Championships21:20 - Establishing OARCA22:52 - Coastal as an alternative access to rowing for people around the world27:47 - The perfect stroke is found in a perfect moment30:42 - Honing his Olympic rowing color commentary for the CBC35:38 - Founding West Coast Rowing Adventures 37:24 - Race Around the Rock40:38 - Thoughts on the proliferation of ocean rowing races44:18 - A lifetime of rowing leads to an ever-growing community “family”
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To see photos of Julien, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.

S5E16 - 100 Episodes: From Launch to Cox Seat at Every Level

In the early months of the COVID-19 pandemic, when it was clear that the 2020 rowing season was in jeopardy, we started brainstorming. We were just two masters rowers and coaches who wanted to celebrate the expansive array of rowers, coaches, and coxswains and savor real-life experience from launch to cox seat at every level. 
We launched Steady State Network in September 2020 with one goal: reframe the popular, yet limited narrative about rowing culture by creating a more inclusive and better represented rowing community. 
On September 22, 2020 with very little audio production experience, but plenty of big ideas and lots of opinions, we dropped episode 1 of Steady State Podcast and wondered: will anyone notice? Will anyone listen?
Join us to look back – and ahead – as we celebrate our 100th episode! 
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Intro 01:13 - Re-writing the original show intro, the simplicity of the early scripts, how COVID reshaped our lives, and learning to be brave07:15 - From Day 1, Steady State Podcast was a COVID project with a long-term mission to challenge the popular yet limited narrative about rowing
Training and Racing10:35 - Williamsburg Boat Club coach Tom Rooks on finding your “why,” and on nerves, anxiety, expectations and visualizing “rear view moments”14:20 - New Zealand Olympian Eric Murray tells a story about an out of control water bottle during a World Cup race
Coaching16:29 - Live2Row Studios Founders and Coaches Stephen Pryor and Justin Knust on checking yourself19:33 - Technique spotlight with New Zealand Olympian Eric Murray: finding suspension on the erg
Coxing23:33 - Whitney Powell of the Candid Cox explains taking ownership of the boat26:24 - Olympian and founder of the 9th Seat Mary Whipple says “less is more” and give space between asks29:26 - Masters coxswain Mitch King hinges his coxing on being collaborative
The Big Issues32:29 - Coach Libby Boghossian’s seasonal SafeSport discussions create a culture for her young athletes where everyone is enlisted in the effort to keep their rowing community safe.37:48 - Olympian, author, and UVA strength coach Lindsay Dare Shoop worries about the pressure of collegiate name/image/likeness (NIL) deals41:39 - Non-binary rower David Scherzer on the limiting male/female gender structure46:04 - Former Tulsa University Women’s Head Coach Kevin Harris on USRowing’s gender identity policy and the importance of inclusion
The Perfect Stroke49:30 - Setting up the perfect stroke50:35 - New Orleans Rowing Club accepts the chaos of coastal rowing53:09 - Joe DeLeo of Science of Rowing and the Leo Training Podcast considers whether the perfect stroke is possible 54:12 - Olympians Mary Whipple and Gevvie Stone on the eternal quest55:31 - UW Coach Marqus Brown describes a “quiet” prefect stroke56:48 - Lake Washington Rowing Club boatswain Susan Kinne describes the meditative experience of rowing in the morning53:55 - Outro
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To see photos of our guests, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.
 

S5E15: Trading Oars for Megaphones: Olympian Kris Thorsness on Life as a USRowing Referee

In 1984, Kris Thorsness brought home gold in the U.S. women’s 8+ from the Olympic Games Los Angeles. Home was Alaska, where she was welcomed with a parade and the distinction of being the first Alaskan to win an Olympic medal.
Today she says she’s “just a masters rower,” but 40 years after that gold medal Olympic performance, she’s also a USRowing Referee and is an Arbitrator for the Court of Arbitration for Sport and the U.S. and Paralympic Committee.
Before she heads off to Paris for the 2024 Olympics in her role as an Arbitrator, we talk with Kris about refereeing, which is often glossed over by rowers but is key to ensuring regattas are safe and effectively run, with a focus on sportsmanship.
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Welcome and Episode lead-In 01:34 - The Huddle03:00 - Rowing Week04:55 - The Hot Seat Q&A06:30 - Favorite part of refereeing: the chase boat08:57 - Favorite place to referee09:40 - Challenges of referees and a lack of funding isn’t helping with bringing new refs down the pipeline16:59 - Rowing Origin: walking on at the University of Wisconsin (Go Badgers!)20:04 - Grit, coming back from behind, and being eager to go into the pain cave23:36 - Accepting the pain and getting gold at the 1984 Olympic Games L.A.26:04 - Advice for rowers aspiring towards the Olympics30:44 - A pair of tan pants and a blue Oxford shirt got Kris started as a referee31:55 - The process of becoming a USRowing referee35:35 - What you need to understand about race officials36:11 - Sassing the referees38:30 - As an arbitrator for the Court of Arbitration for Sport, what types of cases *might* Kris handle at the Olympic Games Paris?41:54 - Are there any doping concerns in Olympic rowing?43:10 - As an IOC delegate, Kris has an all access pass to the events … if she has time to go44:28 - Making the pitch to new potential referees46:37 - SSN Events & Announcements
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To see photos of Kris Thorsness, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.

S5E14: Olympian Jacob Plihal's Lesson in Patience and Persistence

Born and raised on Vashon Island, Washington, Jacob Plihal wasn’t super excited to start rowing (ugh, spandex!), but in 2012 a knee injury prompted him to give up his basketball dreams. With prodding from his physical therapist, and then motivated by friend, classmate and Jr. National Team rower Mia Croonquist, he climbed the ladder to Northeastern University team captain, then the U23 National team, and most recently was named to the 2024 U.S. Olympic team in the men’s single. At 6’10”, Jacob has a clear view of the world’s biggest rowing and athletic achievement: Paris 2024.
We really appreciated his honesty about working for over a decade through both success and disappointment. About turning down opportunities because funding wasn’t available. And about having to work around limited mobility in his knee. He credits sticking to the grind and figuring out what works (and what doesn’t) to being stubborn.
For all these reasons, we’re rooting for Vashon Island’s hometown kid this summer at the Olympic Games Paris.
QUICK LOOK
00:00 - Episode Lead-In01:22 - The Huddle02:13 - On a scale of 1-10, Jacob’s rowing week was a 702:37 - The Hot Seat Q&A03:53 - Growing up with freedom to explore on Vashon Island, WA 05:21 - Rowing origin story: A serious knee injury as a teen changed Jacob’s athletic path 08:42 - Rehabbing an injury while you’re still growing, and working around limited range of motion today10:23 - Being a member of the Green Racing Project at Craftsbury Outdoor Center12:28 - Playing it safe before the big show14:10 - The idea of making a national team was planted very early16:55 - What the heck is the Regatta of Death?21:06 - What’s on your mind on the starting blocks in Lucerne?23:30 - Rowing Fillipi’s biggest single and testing out various Concept2 blades24:15  - Hometown response to qualifying for the Olympics26:00 - Making the most of being an Olympian in the community27:47 - Olympic race date/time and getting a new Fillipi in Paris29:27 - Jacob explains the perfect stroke and a Kris Korzeniowski drill to help you get there31:50 - Tara and Rachel’s move into sculling in 2024 for Race Around the Rock34:57 - Rowing with Isaiah Harrison (6’9”) vs Don Williams (6’2”)36:00 - SSN Events & Announcements
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To see photos of Jacob Plihal, and get links to the people, clubs, and events mentioned in this episode, check out the show notes on our website.
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This episode was made possible in part by Live2Row Studios, Breakwater Realty, RowSource, and our Patrons.
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Steady State Podcast is written, produced, hosted, and edited by Rachel Freedman and Tara Morgan. Tara provides additional audio engineering and is our sponsor coordinator. Rachel manages the website, social media, and e-newsletter. Our theme music is by Jonas Hipper.